InfoQube IM - Community

Submitted by KeithB on 2011/01/09 12:21

I'd like to see some kind of mechanism added to the WIN-c clipper, to enabling putting copied content into the "Item text" instead of in the html pane.

For my purposes, I've moving more and more to modest amounts of text in the grid only, and only using the html pane for a large amount of content.

Therefore, most of the time, I'll do web captures by selecting a paragraph or two, without pictures; i then have to manually copy and paste the html area content into the Item Text box.

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Not related to clipper directly, but I would like to have a Firefox extension that would be an InfoQube toolbar, that would allow me to enter todos, that would be inserted into InfoQube. In the options be able to select the grid that the todo would be created. Probably some default options like priority etc. See the reQall extension for an example of its simplicity.

This would probably add to the ease of use. I usually use win-n though, and enter my todo in the add-item dialog. Not to dismiss your suggestion in any way, but did you try that way ?

I sorry I don't quite understand, what is win-n though?

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I sorry I don't quite understand, what is win-n though?

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Winkey+n is a universal hotkey for a new note in IQ

Thanks I'll work with Win+N, and see if it will work for me, I forgot about the note insertion. A Firefox extension would still be preferable, it would be more transparent. What would help the transparency in the InfoQube note insertion would be an option to keep the main InfoQube program in background after closing the Win+N note. In other words redirect the window focus back to the program I was in when executed Win+N.

1. If I have an InBox field and a field called CallDo selected in the Other Fields box I get the new todo in two grids. In the InBasket grid the new todo is added to the bottom of the InBasket items list. In my second grid, AllToDos grid, the new todo is inserted in the middle of the AllToDos items list. There didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for its location point. I would have expected it to be at the bottom of the list, I would like it to be at the bottom of the list, so I can easily find new entries.

2. Bug-In the second grid, AllToDos, after I insert a new todo with Win+N, I lose the horizontal scroll bar and can't scroll vertical past the original last item before insertion, I can see the top of the check box for the newly inserted item but can't quite get to the new item. All worked fine before the insertion and works fine if I open and close IQ. Does not happen in the InBasket grid.

3. Suggestion- I would like an Add Item button and a Add Item Auto Close button (and of course refocus on original calling window, for more transparent operation.

Hi Al,

>A Firefox extension would still be preferable, it would be more transparent. What would help the transparency in the InfoQube note insertion would be an option to keep the main InfoQube program in background after closing the Win+N note. In other words redirect the window focus back to the program I was in when executed Win+N.

I use Win+n all the time, together with Win+C (universal clipper) to clip web pages, paragraphs, etc.

IMO, Win+n is much more flexible than a Firefox extension. As a firefox extension can only be used... in Firefox. (Note that, in the mean time, from firefox, you could always just right click anywhere and use the Firefox extension already available : "InfoQube copy content" "InfoQube create link"... But you'd have to get rid of the web page link appearing in the item field...)

You can keep IQ in the background (invisible) during the whole add-item (Win+n) process if you minimise IQ when you're not using it and before pressing Win+n.

Otherwise, I'm not sure what you mean by "In other words redirect the window focus back to the program I was in when executed Win+N" as this is exactly what happens here, whether IQ is minimized or not...

>1. If I have an InBox field and a field called CallDo selected in the Other Fields box I get the new todo in two grids. In the InBasket grid the new todo is added to the bottom of the InBasket items list. In my second grid, AllToDos grid, the new todo is inserted in the middle of the AllToDos items list. There didn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for its location point. I would have expected it to be at the bottom of the list, I would like it to be at the bottom of the list, so I can easily find new entries.

Locations of items in the grid depends solely on sorting rules (as written in the source bar sort text box, or as the column headers are set). If there are no sort, the last item will appear at the end of the list (it follows the ascending Iditem value). If you want your latest item to appear at the top, then you need to either specify "IDItem desc" or "itemCreated desc" in the sort text box, and activate the sort button on the source bar (as you probably know).

Unless you have set the grid to autoupdate (this is a setting in the manage grid dialog) ? I never use that option so I don't know what it does. But last time I checked it did unpredictable stuff like that, among other things.

I prefer to F5 (refresh) whenever I need it... :)

> 2. Bug-In the second grid, AllToDos, after I insert a new todo with Win+N, I lose the horizontal scroll bar and can't scroll vertical past the original last item before insertion, I can see the top of the check box for the newly inserted item but can't quite get to the new item. All worked fine before the insertion and works fine if I open and close IQ. Does not happen in the InBasket grid.

This bug happens sometimes. I press Home to get to the top of the grid. I don't think it's something with your AllToDos grid specifically... But maybe it is.

If you hit "home" (key) does it "solve" the problem ?

>3. Suggestion- I would like an Add Item button and a Add Item Auto Close button (and of course refocus on original calling window, for more transparent operation.

- The "add-item button" already exists (you can add it to one of your personal toolbars if you want): Edit->New Item.
yes, the terminology should be changed as it,s not coherent with Add-item (I said it several times in the past). You can always edit the name yourself though (right click on toolbar -> customize, etc.).

- The auto-close option is already there as a check box. (Unless I didn't get what you were asking for/saying).

And, as I already said, I don't have the problem of IQ hiding the original "calling window" (previous active window?) : it does refocus on the "original window" when add item auto-closes.

Do other users have that problem ?

Hi Armando,

Thanks for your insights and suggestions. I would insert these comments in your response, but unfortunately I don't know how. So I will just number my comments according to my previous post.

I would prefer to be add notes from any application, so it might be worth the extra click or two. Is the only difference between "InfoQube copy content" and "InfoQube create link", whether the page content is copied into the html editor? Any idea of how memory intensive the "InfoQube copy content" save is? I could see myself going crazy saving content and creating a file way bigger than I already have?

1. I understand what you mean, I'll just have to spend some time to see how it behaves with my sort settings.

2. I did notice if my AllToDos is the only grid open, everything is okay, but once I open other grids I lose the horizontal scroll bar on all grids. The Home key doesn't solve the problem, it goes to the top but doesn't make the horizontal scroll bar return.

3. I was referring to the Add Item pop up box, there already is an "Add Item" button, which is good for adding multiple entries (I'm just entering todos as they come to mind) with the Auto Close unchecked.

But I would like to see a second button, "Add Item & Close", it would add the item and in effect auto close in one step.

You said "it does refocus on the "original window" when add item auto-closes." With me I end up with IQ as my active window, but I don't have it minimized. I like to keep the IQ window frame top at the highest position on my desktop so I can access IQ at anytime, which I could also do if minimized, but then I have to minimize IQ again to keep it out of the way for future notes. If the IQ window is allowed to stay open and it is at the highest position of all applications, I just select whatever application I want to use and IQ is out of the way, ready to be clicked on again, but doing it this way makes it the active window after using the "Add Item" pop-up. But if I have to minimize, then I will.

Thanks

Hi Tom and Al! :) Al : 2- I never got the horizontal bar problem. Wonder if other had it. Maybe Jan did -- it does seem somwewhat familiar. The only problem I get is the vertical scroll bar not being able to get me past a certain item -- then "home" solves that problem. If you know how to specifically recreate the horizontal scroll bar problem, we can add it to Mantis. 3- "I would like to see a second button, "Add Item & Close", it would add the item and in effect auto close in one step." Well that's what I meant. I wasn't referring to the "insert item" button (in the item menu) which adds an item in a grid, but to the "New item" button in the edit menu. This brings up the add-item dialog. And ff you check the "auto-close" check-box, it'll close the add-item dialog as soon as you click on add, just as you seem to want. Tom and Al : [EDIT 2011 01 14 -- 11 57] Now, as for refocusing on the original window, yes, I discovered that there is sometimes a problem. Focus comes back to the original window. So this could be added to Mantis. But I still don't know why it sometimes doesn't brings back the original window. I mostly use alt-a to insert my item in the IQ dB once I typed what I needed to type.

Hi Armando

2. Horizontal scroll bar problem.

If I have multiple grids open, and use Win+N. The added note shows up the InBasket immediately, I have to press F5 in the second grid to add it. When I I press F5 I lose the horizontal scroll bar in all grids. I just notice today that it is intermittent.

I would like to do it in 1-click instead of 2-clicks. I would like to see 3 buttons; 1)"Add Item"-stay open 2)"Add Item"-close 3)"Cancel"-close and discard information.

Remember I started with a wish for a Firefox extenstion like the reQall extension, a blank field sitting on the toolbar; enter a note that popped into my mind, press enter, back to work.

Any input on memory usage for saving web pages with "Copy Content to InfoQube" clipper?

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2. Horizontal scroll bar problem.

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For the note appearing in the inbasket right away and not in the second grid : it's because you have the "auto update" setting "ON" in the grid management dialog for inbasket, but not the second one..

Horizont. Scroll bar : That's weird. It didn't happen to me yet. I wonder what could cause its disappearance. Maybe is it related to the auto update option. I never use it as I don't like it (affects performance on my huge grids). That said, I just tried several config. and I can't reproduce the problem.

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I would like to do it in 1-click instead of 2-clicks. I would like to see 3 buttons; 1)"Add Item"-stay open 2)"Add Item"-close 3)"Cancel"-close and discard information.

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If you check the the option it will stick until you uncheck it. I usually leave it checked so I don't experience the 2 clicks problem.
Adding a third button instead of the check box could be an option. I wouldn't mind it, personally. It might even be better as I one never have to check/uncheck anything.

What are other's thought on that ?

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Remember I started with a wish for a Firefox extenstion like the reQall extension, a blank field sitting on the toolbar; enter a note that popped into my mind, press enter, back to work.

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Yes, this could still be added to Mantis. However, I guess that my point is that I'm not sure it would be quicker or more practical... And it might have the disadvantage to decentralise a feature (adding an item to the DB).

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Any input on memory usage for saving web pages with "Copy Content to InfoQube" clipper?

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I clipped a lot of stuff in the las 2-3 years. My DB is on the heavy side (400MB). If it continues to grow at this pace, it should reach the 2GB limit in 6-8 years. Not too bad, I guess... Maybe be will IQ have another DB backend though and the 2GB limit won't exist anymore.

If you uncheck the "Save a copy of the HTML/MHT file in the DB" in the database options (tools, options, data storage --> "Save a copy of the HTML/MHT file in the DB" ... last option in the dialog) it shouldn't be to heavy.

Thanks for your help Armando. I don't have auto-update checked for any of my grids. I do all updates manually, with F5.

You're welcome. Normally, no item should automatically appear in a grid after inserting it using the add-item dialog. It should require a refresh. Only when auto-update is on do items appear automatically after being added with add-item. At least that's been my experience. Note that the auto-update option is turned on by default on newly created grids (since a few releases ago). I'm specifying it as you might have not noticed it -- it could be ON without your knowledge.

[quote=Armando]- The auto-close option is already there as a check box. (Unless I didn't get what you were asking for/saying).

And, as I already said, I don't have the problem of IQ hiding the original "calling window" (previous active window?) : it does refocus on the "original window" when add item auto-closes.

Do other users have that problem ?

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I never minimise IQ, when I clip from FF the focus usually goes back to IQ after instead of to FF.

It's unpredictable, sometimes it works. Doesnt matter if I simply close it with the mouse, or use the Alt+A shortcut

Alt+A often works - it's working now, possibly cause I rebooted lately - I usually leave IQ running and hibernate.

Lately, it's not clipping anything for me though :( I'll have to test that a bit & I'll report it elsewhere with specific examples.

two great ideas

A check box to be able to turn such a option ON/OFf would be nice. +1 Of cource it's also possible to do 1- ctrl-c (to copy) your selection, 2- win-n (bring up add item dialog), 3- ctrl-v (paste info),4- alt-a (add item to DB).