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Submitted by Jon on 2012/01/05 13:31

This thread deviated and I began to address an observation about deleting items in W5. From my post:

Deleting large numbers of items (approximately 100 with sub items for most) works, but the cursor never returns to normal. It always shows that it is busy. I can navigate to other grids, but the cursor does not return to normal. After the items are deleted, IQ shows normal CPU usage. This does not occur with W3.

Jon

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Jon, does IQ start to 'flash'

locked up like you can't do anything with it until you close it via task manager?

I've had this a few times under different circumstances than yours & I can't reproduce it on command.

I figured it was a memory issue, looping or something along those lines ????

[quote=jan_rifkinson]

Jon, does IQ start to 'flash'

locked up like you can't do anything with it until you close it via task manager?

I've had this a few times under different circumstances than yours & I can't reproduce it on command.

I figured it was a memory issue, looping or something along those lines ????

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IQ does not flash nor does it lock up. I can continue to use it, but the cursor remains "busy." I can reproduce this at will in W5. It does not happen at all in W3.

Jon

The mouse cursor in IQ does this to me sometimes too. I haven't tried to firgure out why though. I'll try to pin it down next time. (Deleting all items in a sample DB didn't cause any problem).

Usually If I drag something (grid tab, item, whatever) and press ESC in the middle of the dragging phase to cancel it, the mouse cursor goes back to normal.

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Windows XP Home Edition, Service pack 3

Dell Vostro 1500, Ram:3gb, CPU: Intel Core2Duo T7500 2.2ghz

[quote=Armando]

Usually If I drag something (grid tab, item, whatever) and press ESC in the middle of the dragging phase to cancel it, the mouse cursor goes back to normal.

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ESC has no effect. I have to re start IQ for the cursor to return to normal. For me, this appears to be a W5 problem. It does not happen in W3.

Jon

Yes, this is a recurring problem. Maybe I'm not using ESC, after all... Maybe right clicking on a grid tab or something... don't remember.

This should of course be fixed, but If I do cross the problem at some point I'll try to note down what I did to work around the problem.

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Windows XP Home Edition, Service pack 3

Dell Vostro 1500, Ram:3gb, CPU: Intel Core2Duo T7500 2.2ghz

Ok, here's one reproducible case and a workaround.

1-Open 2 IQ processes with the SAME DB, and open a grid in both windows.

2- Drag an item from one IQ window to the other while pressing CTRL.

The operation should succeed but you'll now be stuck with a mouse cursor that's less than acceptable.

3- Now do as if you were going to drag and drop an other item : click on anyone while holding CTRL, drag it, but before dropping it, press ESC to interrupt the action.

Here, this will restore the mouse cursor to the standard pointer.

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Windows XP Home Edition, Service pack 3

Dell Vostro 1500, Ram:3gb, CPU: Intel Core2Duo T7500 2.2ghz

Thanks Armando. This is illustrative of the frustrations I/we encounter when using IQ. Initially I approached IQ with caution, then for a long time used it to mirror my work in Ecco. I cannot afford to lose data, nor can I afford to sustain this duplicate effort indefinitely. Over time I have diminished my Ecco use because I have become more confident in IQ's data integrity, but also because of my time constrains.

I had complained a while ago about the gotchas and workarounds that should not be occurring or necessary at this point. You had talked me out of abandoning IQ. I did not follow through because your argument was sensible, but also because of the one thing that seems immutable with Ecco - its file limits. There are approaches to stave off these limitations, but they too are workarounds, not solutions. Because of IQ's continued rough edges, I have lately questioned my decision to work mainly in IQ. Please don't take offense, but your solution (1) almost pushed me over the edge and (2) was laugh out loud funny. What user would want to use this solution, or even remember it? Yet it shows how far IQ is from an acceptable, stable release.

Jon

Hi Jon,

I think you might have misunderstood my message.

What I was basically saying is 1- "here's a reproduciable bug", 2- "and until it's fixed you can always press ESC while you're dragging something to get your mouse icon back".

I'm not trying to say that this is a valid workaround, in general (it wouldn't be anyway).

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Windows XP Home Edition, Service pack 3

Dell Vostro 1500, Ram:3gb, CPU: Intel Core2Duo T7500 2.2ghz

Hi Armando:

I got it. IQ is so good that the unfinished areas, bugs, UI issues, etc. are glaring and can be infuriating when one wants to get stuff done. For example, I have to distribute some notes to co-workers on a regular basis. Don't ask why, but they must be on paper. I have to jump through hoops to get a presentable and acceptable print-out. I should be able to print directly from IQ, but I cannot. Ecco is notorious for poor printing, but it shines in comparison.

Jon

[quote=Jon]

Hi Armando:

Jon

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+1 BIG ONE

I've been bitching about this for years. it has been improved but it's still too dense for the average user. I stopped bitching. Glad I'm not alone.