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Submitted by ThomR on 2010/01/12 16:03

Greetings all. I tried adding right and left arrows as keyboard shortcuts for expanding/collapsing items (in addition to ctrl+,-), only to discover that this gets applied in edit mode as well, such that I'm unable to move the cursor to the right or left within the text with the arrows. I suppose there isn't a way to have arrow functionality for expand/collapse which is only applied when outside of edit mode?

Best,

Thomas

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I only discovered recently that using Alt+Arrow Keys to move items within the outline also works with an item in edit mode

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>> focus on the item & <ALT><RIGHT> or <LEFT> to indent / outdent

<ALT><RIGHT> will make the item a sub-item of the item above it

To move the item up or down the list use <ALT><UP or DOWN ARROW> [/quote]

I'm not sure of the advantage of this (if any) but thought I'd mention it as it seems related

Hi Thomas,

I think Pierre is probably the best person to address your question.

Each to their own, of course, but as a matter of symbolic usage: IMO the way it is currently structured seems pretty logical & intuitive i.e.

more = +

less = -

up / down / left / right = arrows

These are easy to get used to like <CTRL>p = printing, <CTRL>A = select all, etc

Just my .02 you didn't ask for.

Jan Rifkinson

Ridgefield CT USA

HP Blackbird Vista Ultimate SP-2

Thanks Jan. I'm not sure where I grew so accustomed to using arrows to expand/collapse, but it's just a habit that I thought worth a little inquiry to delay breaking. The convenience, for me, is in browsing through items: up and down from item to item, and then left and right to expand/collapse... my lazy wrist doesn't even flex, and my thumb can continue whatever it is that it isn't doing.

Obviously, if it's a pita to implement, I'll just have to do some retraining. :)

[quote=ThomR]

Obviously, if it's a pita to implement, I'll just have to do some retraining. :)

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Yes, using the arrows is a lot easier, [edit] I was thinking of Control+Arrows [/edit]

I'd like to be able to have it as you suggest - I expand / collapse a lot more often than moving stuff around, and the other shortcuts (Ctrl+1 through to 9, and the same with Shift) aren't that accessible either unless maybe if you're a numberpad user)

We'll see what Pierre says . . . :-)

[quote=Tom]

Yes, using the arrows is a lot easier, [edit] I was thinking of Control+Arrows [/edit]

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(added edit above)

To clarify: the OP was looking that this customised shortcut (Ctrl+Arrows, used to expand/collapse items) would only work when *Not* in edit mode

- to which I'd add my vote

[quote=ThomR]

Thanks Jan. I'm not sure where I grew so accustomed to using arrows to expand/collapse[/quote]

From a single field per pane outliner, almost certainly. Quite a different beast. IQ's interface is built on a Grid control, like Excel. So the user arrows around the grid to navigate fields. IQ's Tree control is secondary to the Grid. The Tree applies as interface only to a single field, usually Item, even as it toggles the display of multiple records.

Grid being primary, the arrows mean "over" rather than "out."

Jerome