Submitted by Tom on 2012/11/13 16:35
 
Just wondering:
has anyone used IQ on a windows 8 machine?
 
 

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I bought Windows 8 two weeks ago, installed it on a separate hard drive just to see if it's working on my hardware etc. Next step is to do it for real... I'm afraid...! Changing OS can be sooooo time consuming, especially when one skipped several versions, like I did (I'm still on XP).
Anyhow, maybe I'll check tomorrow if IQ is working properly on Windows 8. It should.
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Tom

2012/11/14 04:59

In reply to by Armando

 
 Thanks Armando -
I'll be checking tommorow myself too ;-)
new laptop coming later today - if IQ and one or two other software dont work on it I'll just have to send it back
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Pierre_Admin

2012/11/14 10:13

In reply to by Tom

Don't send it back !
 
I'll make it work, don't worry !!!
 

Tom

2012/11/14 11:01

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

[quote=Pierre_Admin]
Don't send it back !
 
I'll make it work, don't worry !!![/quote]
 
Thanks Pierre !!
 
(but I'm more worried about other software I use for work that is no longer being updated ...)
 
 

Armando

2012/11/14 21:54

In reply to by Tom

Still haven't got the time to check that out. So... you might have already tried. :)
Maybe later tonight. I'm behind schedule. (As usual)
 
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Tom

2012/11/15 08:56

In reply to by Tom

Well it seems to works fine from a usb stick (on windows 8)
(once I found the bleeding desktop...)
 
oh yeah, forgot to say -
one programme from 1999 that I still regularly use, it installed without problems and seems to run fine

Armando

2012/11/15 12:47

In reply to by Tom

That's good to know ! Thanks Tom.
 
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Pierre,
I just started actually using IQ in Win8 today.
 
Unfortunately I am unable to edit the html pane in any way, in any file -
I presume this is to do with Internet Explorer 10.
Can you have a look?
 
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Armando

2012/11/21 10:42

In reply to by Tom

Will try it this PM.
 
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Tom

2012/11/22 14:52

In reply to by Tom

[quote=Pierre_Admin]
Are you using IE10 ?
 
If yes, perhaps turn on IE9 emulation.
 
[/quote] I think you meant to reply to this thread Pierre (so I quote it here) Yes, it's IE10 Well I tried all the different modes - from IE7 to IE9. IE forgets the mode on restarting - I presume that's a bug (but I dont know). So, all I can do is select my mode. Start IQ. Test. I'm afraid none of the modes worked that way. edit/ had the number wrong ...

Pierre_Admin

2012/11/22 15:21

In reply to by Tom

No, it was about the other thread.
[quote]
In the reply box I can only see/get raw html :( so I have no idea how this'll look.
(Do other have this problem too???)
[/quote]
 
You were saying that the web site wysiwyg is not working correctly in IE10. Is that right or am I mistaken ?

Tom

2012/11/26 09:17

In reply to by Tom

Pierre,
 
[quote=Tom]I just started actually using IQ in Win8 today.
 
Unfortunately I am unable to edit the html pane in any way, in any file -
I presume this is to do with Internet Explorer 10.
Can you have a look?[/quote]
 
dont forget me!
 
[quote=Pierre_Admin]
Don't send it back !
 
I'll make it work, don't worry !!![/quote]
 
bumping this - as Armando has confirmed, the HTML pane is not editable in Windows 8.
Also tested with Pre-release 5
 
I suspect it's related to IE10 -
see my post above where I report trying different IE 'modes' - unsuccessfully.
 
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Windows 8  /  IQ 0.9.26Pre-Rel5 2012-11-23 22h00

Trying Windows 8 for the last 2 days wasn't a success.
 
IQ worked ok, but... without the ability to edit in the HTML pane. It seemed a tad slower (on the same laptop). Your mileage may vary... It could be me and my skewed perceptions.
 
All in all, after the first "Wow", I disliked my experience with Windows 8.
- The upgrade/installation was a pain (I won't go through all the details, but it took me one FULL day, just for getting working OS with no applications installed -- this is baaaaad as I'm  not exactly a novice),
- I don't understand their interface choices. (I won't go into the metro debate as we're all sick of it.)
 
So I decided to backup my installation, and put back my reliable and known XP (a fresh image, of course)... until I have plenty of time to configure Windows 8 so that it becomes something to work with instead of something to play and consume with. Maybe somewhere in January, or... next summer.
 
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Tom

2012/11/26 09:29

In reply to by Armando

Armando,
I dont know about upgrades - I got a new laptop with it pre-installed.
I know Darwin (dc) said he upgraded in place from Vista to 7 to 8 and was very happy -
but maybe XP to 8 results in culture shock ;-)
 
Gotta say what I love about it is the incredibly quick boot time (and closedown time).
In theory it needs less resources than 7, but I havent seen any head to head tests.
 
Upgrade in situ sounds dodgy to me - but really sounds like you'd be better off with windows 7.
For a desktop now -or a full-time machine- I would choose 7 over 8.
 
IQ on the laptop is a lot slower than my desktop - but it's a case of:
{reasonably good but still an entry level laptop}  vs   {i5 and 8GB ram}
so it's impossible to compare.

Armando

2012/12/07 12:45

In reply to by Tom

Hi Tom,
Thanks for taking the time to write back.
Yes my experience was terrible. I think Microsoft did a bad job with the online buying/upgrade process. It's not event the XP/Windows 8 step that's the problem.
 
Here's what I went through :
 
[The first 7-10 hours]
 
1- Bought Windows Online from my laptop with windows XP 32 bits (service pack 3) installed.
 
2- Before installing anything : did all the necessary image backups etc. on an external hard drive
 
3- Tried a clean install on a spare hard drive to make sure everything was working properly : everything did (windows got installed, it booted, etc.), but I never got the choice to choose a 64 bit install. So... Realized that I was stuck with a 32 bit OS as I was downloading from a 32 bit XP... Even before the download process, Microsoft offered NO choice to actually upgrade from 32 to 64 bit.
 
I didn't activate anything as this was just a test drive.
 
At this point I'm telling myself. "I should've just bought the packaged version at future shop for just 20$ more". I downloaded it to avoid loosing time going there... But I ended up loosing more time !
 
Anyway :
 
4- After some research, found out that I had to download Windows 8 from a 64 bit system to have access to the 64 bit version. What a weird decision Microsoft made. especially that upgrading from Windows XP is basically a clean install... Anyhow.
 
5- So... after some pondering, decided to install Girlfriend's Windows 7 64 bit on my laptop (she actually chose the 32 bit option -- that option exists on Windows 7... -- for her own so it wasn't going to work downloading Windows 8 from hers) to be able to download Windows 8. This worked. (Note that Windows 7 didn't need to be activated to download windows 8 from the link I already had... just in case you wonder).
 
 
[The next 7-10 hours]
 
After good sleep : now ready to install my new 64 bit Windows 8.
 
6- Formatted Hard Drive #1
 
7- Installed Windows 8. After an hour or so of fiddling, windows 8 boots. Cool, all is nice.
Now let's activate it...
OOOOPS ! Microsoft tells me that the key I have isn't valid for a clean install. It's only valid for an upgrade ! Can you believe that ?
First, they tell me that after everything is already installed and XP is now non existent... since it's been wiped off. Cool !
Second, it would make no difference what so ever, but they insist that I install it from XP. Installing from XP is always a "clean install".
 
What now ?
 
8- I have to erase windows 8 and restore my windows XP image. At least, that's what I think.
 
9- Some hours later, I have a functioning XP from which I can restart the upgrade process. Absurd, but here you go.
I double click on the windows 8 upgrade program...
Tada !  it tells me that the 64 bit Windows 8 I have can't be installed from a 32 bit Windows XP ! Fantastic.
 
Yes, I know, I should've known better, but...
 
10 - Ok. I'm patient and not discouraged that easily. So I reinstall the bogus window 7 (how many installs did I already go through...?? Forgot to count) to be able to install windows 8 from it.
 
11- It works, but 3/4 through the process, it stops. No Windows 8 or 7 is available at this point. Windows 8 installation failed.
 
12- So I reinstall Windows 7 Yet again (!), but I disconnect from the internet, as I suspect that Windows 7  tried to upgrade to the latest bestest while it was also trying to upgrade to Windows 8.
 
13 - Finally Windows 8 installs, and it works. Yes : IT WORKS !
 
Fewwww ! What a relief. But that was just for an normal install with no applications, nothing.
 
 
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In the second part of this soap -- if there was one -- you'd get to know the disastrous use of PCMover (Yes, I did buy that, desperate to get back to work ASAP), and how it failed lamentably, and how that was the cherry on top of everything.
 
In the third part of this installation soap, I'd tell you the story of my disappointment (after the initial "Wow !") with the full screen Metro apps and strange extra steps I had to go through to do things I'm used to do in 2 steps. Granted, I would've probably found better ways after weeks of using it, but I still found that some Metro choices are poor as far as a laptop and touchpad/keyboard centric user is concerned.
 
So, in the end, I felt : na.... better go back to XP. My old slippers aren't cool, but I won't loose 2 more weeks of work trying to get my productivity back... I'm not a billionaire.
 
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Tom

2012/12/07 16:19

In reply to by Armando

wow,
that sounds ... like an adventure, of sorts!

there seems to be so little common sense involved in a lot of Windows 8 related decisions.
I have it on a laptop which I will need for work but thankfully dont need to use it intensively.
 
Touchpad with 8 is a royal PITA - it keeps opening the charms bar.
Otherwise I'm slowly getting used to it - not using it much yet, that helps take the pressure off.
 
I started a Windows 8 tips thread at dc and MilesAhead said
Wait for SP1
 
Hopefully it will help. But definitely for a work machine, I'd go with 7 - it's good till 2020 (I think).