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Submitted by WayneK on 2016/01/19 19:57

I seem to be the king of problems no one else is having but I can rarely go more than a few hours before something new turns up. This time it's web captures. I captured the follow wiki entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Keogh

It didn't seem like an excessively big page to capture but as soon as I did, InfoQube started acting erratically. First it went into gray out mode with an hour glass displayed and a "program not responding" message. It did this over and over, at least 10 times in the next five minutes. Any return to the item with the web capture would set it off again. Sometimes if I moved to another item, it would display the web capture from the OTHER item (ie the HTML panes between the two items were reversed).

Re-started InfoQube and problem persisted. I've mentioned before that I run into the "program not responding" problem pretty consistently, often 10+ times a day.

Deleting the item seems to have cleared it up for now. Maybe the page was just too big for InfoQube to handle.

Update: instead of doing a web capture, I printed the web page to PDF, and opened that in InfoQube. That's working much better so far.

Wayne

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It isn't an issue of page size as much as code. The page has lots of code which seems to "call home" and this causes huge delays on loading

To make the matter worse, if you happen to be in editing mode (browse mode off), then the editor has an even harder time with that item

On my computer (a relatively recent machine), it does come back eventually (60 seconds) and moving to another item, IQ becomes fully responsive

If you captured the whole page (Copy URL content), IQ generated a file ItemIDXXX.HTM. Opening this file in Chrome or IE is also quite slow

HTH !

Thanks, Pierre. That makes sense. Saving to PDF is probably going to be the way to go for me in most cases.

Wayne

Win 7, 64 bit Cyberpower Model 1, C Series (2011) 16 GB RAM

27" Samsung S27A350H, 24" ASUS VW242H 1920x1080

I would recommend against saving as PDF...

How about just selecting important parts and clipping it. This will be fast, and you can clip more than one section by leaving the new item dialog open. You'll be able to edit / markup the content, it will be searchable, etc

Remember that when clipping, the original URL is shown at the bottom of the clip, so you can always go back to it.

Are other full-page clipper doing better than IQ ?

We've had this discussion before. I know you don't like PDF's. I like them because they give me the most flexibility for markups. Haven't found another format that's even close but I'm open to suggestions. I went through a lot of programs trying to find something to properly mark up research and finally settled on a good PDF editor. I really dislike HTML files etc with all the folder and file clutter and no ability to mark up. I'm going back and converting all my Scrapbook files to PDF's.

I don't generally need to search inside web pages but my web capture PDF's are searchable.

Wayne

OK, I see. It is certainly true that PDF markup tools are better than others. Editing may be another story though. Copy and paste can be problematic too.

Another option is capturing as MHT. MHT files can be edited in MSWord and BlockNote so it should do what you want in terms of markup. Content is searchable inside IQ and it loads fast and with perfect layout inside IQ.

Finally, when viewing Wikipedia, I recommend using the printable version of the page (less extra stuff). The link for this page in left pane, under Print/Export

HTH !

Pierre_Admin

Pierre,

Never need to edit PDF's. Copy/paste can be a problem but I've solved most of that with the utility that automatically removes the line breaks, OCR'ing PDF's sometimes creates errors that have to be corrected manually when you copy/paste but it's not a big deal.

I spent months look at every markup program I could find. Nothing comes close to PDF Revu. I do more than just highlight text. With Revu I can add text boxes with arrows, overlap images, create maps and host of other things. You can also create your own markup tools that you can access with a single click:

This is a small sample of the tools I've created for various kinds of mark ups. Hands down, InfoQube and PDF Revu are the two most powerful, useful programs I've found (with XMind coming in third). I can combine the power of the two by using Revu for markups and InfoQube for organizing and accessing the markups.

I've seen MHT files mentioned a few times. I tried opening a random one just to see what it looked like and it opened
Firefox, wiped out all my existing tabs (including pinned tabs), and started opening an endless stream of blank tabs. No idea what that was about but it's happened to me twice.

I had to use Word at work and never cared for it so I try to avoid using it if I can. Of course, these are just my own thoughts. I'm sure others have their own approaches that may well be better than mine.

Wayne

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Hands down, InfoQube and PDF Revu are the two most powerful, useful programs I've found (with XMind coming in third). I can combine the power of the two by using Revu for markups and InfoQube for organizing and accessing the markups.

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Wow, it seems you've found the right tools for you ! Best to stick with them then.

IIRC, Firefox needs an extension to open MHT files (IE and chrome can open natively).

I've used this one in the past: https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/unmht/

IQ clipper can generate MHT automatically when using the clipper.