Submitted by WayneK on 2018/09/21 01:44
I haven't used Home pages at all so I thought I would take a shot at learning it step by step.  I tried using the online documentation.  It might be just me but I found it very difficult to follow and didn't accomplish much at all,
 
Frustration began at the very beginning where it's presumed you know how to open the home page.  I kept searching for it in my grids because I knew it appeared as a tab.  After many tries, I found it: View>Home Page.  Dead simple in retrospect but it should be given at the beginning of the manual explanation.
 
Several other cases where I couldn't understand what was said or was unable to do what was suggested (maybe because I didn't fully understand said!).  I couldn't tell when I was supposed to be working in the grid using the main menus, or in the HTML using those different menus, and didn't know if HTML view should be set to brouse mode.
 
No point in minutely describing every problem I had.  I'll tackle it again tomorrow with a fresh start. 
 
 
 
 

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 When I first set it up I found it confusing and unintuitive. At some later point months later somehow my home page disappeared and it took my 30 minutes to figure out how to get it back and get it where I wanted it, as it's own pane again. The good news is I personally could never go back to not using it. Every grid is categorized and a click away.

I must admit this is one of the functions of InfoQube which I have until now overlooked.  Thinking "I must look into that someday".

So prompted by this thread on the forum I have taken a look and I find it is potentially quite useful.

The documentation is less than excellent however.

On the subject of Homepages themselves I think it is a mistake to treat home pages as separate to normal items.  In general making exceptions of things almost always complicates things.  I feel that if the 'Home Page' were the HTML/Doc pane of a normal item then it would be more understandable and accessible to the new user.

Maybe there could be a grid called 'Home Pages' which contains all the items marked as being a 'Home Page' and they could be arranged as a hierarchy or any way the user sees fit.

But the problem is that there are tokens, strings of characters which when edited are just strings, like [Grids] but when displayed in a 'Home Page' the token is replaced by the thing it is representing, in the case of [Grids] it is replaced by a list of all the Grids in the notebase.

If the 'Home Page' were the document pane of a normal item then there would have to be some mechanism to switch between 'Edit Mode' where you enter or edit the tokens and 'View Mode' where you cannot edit and where the tokens are expanded into the things they are supposed to represent.  This would also be ugly and unintuitive.

I don't know how to solve this dichotomy.  Perhaps Pierre's current solution is better but I do feel it would be better if the 'Home Page's were more accessible to change.  Loading a HTML file from an arbitrary location is hardly an elegant solution.  It means there are two representations of the 'Home Page' in the notebase, an item linked to a HTML file which can be edited but represents the tokens as their strings and the actual 'Home Page' which cannot be edited but where the tokens are expanded.  This is almost as bad as having an Edit mode and View mode on the same page.

There are some problems with the current situation.  Firstly any changes to the HTML page of an item in the notebase don't take effect until the program is closed and re-opened.

Secondly if you change the CSS file the rendering of the 'Home Page' removes the margins from the text and headings on the page.  It is rendered correctly in the HTML pane of the item it is linked to.

I think this needs some thought!

Paul_J_Miller

2018/10/03 17:45

In reply to by Paul_J_Miller

I overlooked the fact that there is already a 'View' mode and 'Edit' mode.  I didn't think of it until I was reminded by another post on this forum.  'View' mode is called 'Browse' mode and it doesn't get noticed very much because opening an item opens it in 'Edit' mode by default.
 
Perhaps 'Home' pages could be just normal items which have been flagged as being a 'Home' page somehow.  But if you opened one it would open in 'Browse' mode by default.
 
If in 'Edit' mode then the special tokens would not be translated and could just be edited as normal, if in 'Browse' mode then the tokens would be translated into the things they are supposed to represent.
 
I think treating 'Home' pages as normal items would simplify their usage.
 
Just a suggestion.
 

Hi all,
 
It has indeed been quite a while since this doc page has been updated and many things have change in IQ since then (grid groups, dashboards, just to name two).
Let me get v110 released with the new Tags feature (I love it...) and I'll update the doc and perhaps make some changes if need be.
 
HTH !
 
Pierre_Admin
IQ Designer
 

David_H

2018/09/26 13:56

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

[quote=Pierre_Admin]
Let me get v110 released with the new Tags feature (I love it...)[/quote]
 
Pierre, you're getting me excited about this, please drink lots of red bull and coffee so it can be released ASAP :-D.
 
David

WayneK

2018/09/26 20:38

In reply to by David_H

Thanks, David.  I'll check that out.
 
I have a regular grid set up as my "home" where I have links to my most-used grids and items.  I'm interested in seeing what advantages the Home Page has over that.
 
Wayne