Submitted by WayneK on 2015/12/02 12:41
I'm starting a new thread just to try to get visibility for a recurrent problem that never seems to get conclusively resolved.  I'm utterly frustrated trying to put images in the HTML pane.  It's just not reliable and is repeatedly undermining my attempts to use InfoQube for research.  Having images in the HTML pane is a big part of my method and it's becoming increasingly difficult to have any confidence in it.  Over and over, I have to stop work and spend big chunks of time trying to fix image displays.
 
The recent thread about images not displaying is just the latest episode.  It petered out without a resolution and no answer to my final question.  In this case, as in others, InfoQube was working fine, then for some reason just stops working.  In this case, the images started displaying as black boxes.  I hadn't changed any settings or started doing anything differently.  It just stopped working out of the blue.  I don't know how that's possible but I'm not a programmer.  
 
As in other cases, I found a work around: I re-started IQ and the images would again display.  As in other cases, the work around also stopped working for no known reason. 
 
Pierre suggested there was a problem with the path so I looked at options and found that the path was blank.  I tried to paste the full path there but when I did that, InfoQube appended my path to the default path, creating an invalid path.  When I saw it was going to do that, I canceled out of the path change.
 
A couple of days later, I went back and found that IQ had entered my path even though I'd canceled the change.  So I deleted the path, leaving the space blank.  Suddenly, all my images were appearing again.
 
This might sound like a happy solution to the problem but it really isn't.  When I deleted the path, I put it back the way it was when the problem started.  So I still don't know what caused the problem and don't know what caused it to go away.
 
As soon as my images started displaying, I said to myself, something else will crop up soon.  And it did.  Now images have started displaying at 10% of normal size.  As with other image problems, it doesn't happen all the time.  It occurs randomly.
 
And as a follow up to previous discussions, it still sometimes pastes images in a "flattened" state where the image cannot be selected or re-sized.
 
It appears that I'm the only person who tries to put images in the HTML pane.  You can't find these problems by just doing a one-time try.  You have to work with images over an extended period to see the apparently random problems cropping up.
 
I'm at the point of not knowing what to do.  It's just too unreliable to use for serious work.  I guess I'm open to other ideas on how to accomplish what I want.  I suppose I could use links to images but I don't like that nearly as much.  Should I put the images in the grid instead?
 
I'm not suggesting this is a top-priority issue.  I don't think it is, especially since I appear to be the only one using images in this way.  I'd be happy if it just got recognized as an issue that needs to be looked at somewhere down the road.
 
Wayne

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Hi Wayne,
 
Sorry to hear about this issue. I did not mean to ignore you, I just thought that the issue was resolved.
 
I've proposed a few avenues possible to help you: Facebook chat, Skype, phone call... don't hesitate to ask !
 
Pierre_Admin
 

WayneK

2015/12/02 14:26

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

As I said, this issue is resolved (sort of).  Please read my other points.  I'm not asking for help for a specific issue.  Images in the HTML pane don't work in general.  I shouldn't be getting repeated problems that have no known cause and no known solution. 
 
We don't know why my images stopped displaying and we don't know why they started displaying again.  This has happened with other issues.  It's just not reliable, in general, and I'm asking you to consider looking into it at some point down the road.  To do that, you'll need to start pasting images in the HTML over an extended period (weeks).  If you do that, I think you'll see problems cropping up.  Or maybe there's just something wrong with my system.
 
What about pasting into the grid?  That'll add to the database size, right?  I don't  want to do that.
 
Any idea why some images are now displaying at 10% size?  When I switch to browser mode, they change to full size.  But that wasn't happening before and it doesn't happen with all images. I've never used browser mode and the image size was fine until today.
 
 
Wayne
Win 7, 64 bit Cyberpower Model 1, C Series (2011) 16 GB RAM
27" Samsung S27A350H, 24" ASUS VW242H  1920x1080

WayneK

2015/12/02 14:49

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

By the way, I rarely say something is a bug because I realize there's always a good chance that I don't understand something about how InfoQube works.  In this case, I'm having difficulty seeing what I could be doing wrong when we're just talking about copy/pasting images into the HTML pane.  Maybe I AM doing something wrong but I can't think of what it could be.  I welcome any ideas on it.
 
Edit:  Let me take a different approach.  Are there any users who have been pasting images into the HTML pane over a long period of time and have NOT encountered problems like I've described? 
 
Wayne
Win 7, 64 bit Cyberpower Model 1, C Series (2011) 16 GB RAM
27" Samsung S27A350H, 24" ASUS VW242H  1920x1080

Armando

2015/12/02 16:21

In reply to by WayneK

>In this case, the images started displaying as black boxes.

This has not happen to me. IE + graphic adapter problem? link problem?
  

>As in other cases, I found a work around: I re-started IQ and the images would again display.  As in other cases, the work around also stopped working for no known reason. Pierre suggested there was a problem with the path so I looked at options and found that the path was blank. 

Images I pasted directly are all still there. I just made a search in my ***.SNDB.files folder, displayed and copied all the ItemID****.jpg file names, and made a big search to display all the corresponding items in IQ (64 items). So, apart from those items that have been deleted, all items have a corresponding image, except for 3. I looked at these images directly in Explorer, and they were rubish, so I guess I just removed them from the items -- only they're still there in the ***.SNDB.files folder -- and that explains why the corresponding items are "empty".
 
 

>Now images have started displaying at 10% of normal size.  As with other image problems, it doesn't happen all the time.  It occurs randomly.

I don't remember if this happened to me. But as I already said, I never really work in the HTML pane as I find it annoying. Never knowing the actual font size or zoom size, etc. makes it uncomfortable for editing/formatting. So I work in Word (page view mode or web view mode, depending on what I'm doing).
 
Pierre, is there a way to bring back the HTML pane zoom to 100% (full size) with one shortcut/button when NOT in browse mode?
  
 
 
>And as a follow up to previous discussions, it still sometimes pastes images in a "flattened" state where the image cannot be selected or re-sized.
 
Don't know about this. Haven't noticed. Maybe it's the HTML pane mode that's switching to browse mode ? Maybe you've got a shortcut that triggers it? Maybe they've been converted to MHT? Only the NONE browse mode allows image resizing. MHT files are displayed in browse mode.

Maybe a popup telling the user that HTML pane is in browse mode would be good. The popup could be deactivated for ever with a check mark so that it doesn't bother us when we got the point.
 
 

>It appears that I'm the only person who tries to put images in the HTML pane.  You can't find these problems by just doing a one-time try.  You have to work with images over an extended period to see the apparently random problems cropping up.

I did paste images in IQ from time to time (see above), but I'm stuck in the habit of always converting everything to MHT (for editing purposes). So, except for what I described earlier, most of what I have is in MHT format.
  


>I'm at the point of not knowing what to do.  It's just too unreliable to use for serious work.  I guess I'm open to other ideas on how to accomplish what I want.  I suppose I could use links to images but I don't like that nearly as much.  Should I put the images in the grid instead?

Well if it's a bug it will probably be fixed. : -) Especially if it really slows down everyday work.
 
I don't see why you should change your way of working. Pasting images and expecting them to stay there at the right size seems pretty reasonable to me.
 
 
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WayneK

2015/12/02 19:59

In reply to by Armando

Armando,
 
Thanks for taking the time to work through some of the possibilities.  Maybe I'll try converting to MHT if that's going to be more reliable.
 
Wayne
Win 7, 64 bit Cyberpower Model 1, C Series (2011) 16 GB RAM
27" Samsung S27A350H, 24" ASUS VW242H  1920x1080

Pierre_Admin

2015/12/02 20:09

In reply to by WayneK

As you wish... you have ms word to edit mht files?
 
I'm looking into this right now, so if you prefer editing in the html pane, wait a few days for the next version
 
Pierre_Admin
 

WayneK

2015/12/03 21:07

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

Thank you for taking a look.  I hope you're able to find something just so I know I'm not crazy or don't have some system problem. 
 
Of course, if it's just me that has these problems then there's no point in spending too much time on it.
 
Wayne
 

Armando

2015/12/04 11:03

In reply to by WayneK

[quote=WayneK]
Thank you for taking a look.  I hope you're able to find something just so I know I'm not crazy or don't have some system problem. 
 
Of course, if it's just me that has these problems then there's no point in spending too much time on it.
 
Wayne
 
[/quote]
 
Maybe, as soon as some problem shows up : screenshot + description of config/process (browse mode or not, how the image was put there, document format) 
 
Are you on Windows 10?
 
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Armando

2015/12/02 23:22

In reply to by WayneK

[quote=WayneK]
Armando,
 
Thanks for taking the time to work through some of the possibilities.  Maybe I'll try converting to MHT if that's going to be more reliable.
 
Wayne
Win 7, 64 bit Cyberpower Model 1, C Series (2011) 16 GB RAM
27" Samsung S27A350H, 24" ASUS VW242H  1920x1080
[/quote]
 
HI Wayne,
 
As Pierre just said, maybe it's worth waiting to see what the issue could be.

I'm not really trying to convince you to work in MHT format. That's only what I  do when I need to work on actual documents. It's also because a while ago IQ didn't allow just pasting an single image in the HTML pane and save it, so I got into the habit of MHTing everything.
 
For what it's worth, my single image files still work and I have no issues with them.
 
 
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Windows 8.1
Sony Vaio S Series 13 (SVS131E21L)
Ram:8gb, CPU: Intel i5-3230M, 2.6ghz