Submitted by jan_rifkinson on 2009/01/03 16:29
Pierre, et al
 
Thinking of automation as exists w Zoot smart folders, I'm considering the following scenario:
 
Populate the 'Inbox' w a lot of check mark category columns. Example
 
|  house  |  car  |  ToDo  |  Finances  |  girlfriend  | tech | journal |
Then create views for / house / car / todo / finances / girlfriend / tech / journal/ with Inbox as source
 
Specialized views are then created & this method would automatically populate those views w the appropriate data
 
First, I'd like comments on this approach.
Second, what's a better approach for this kind of thing?
Third, the problem I see comes in the specialized views. Example: Tech
 
Let's say I use 10 different programs & I want to amass all tech notes in this view
What's the best way to filter for the individual program notes.
 
I could re-create the cascading views as I've done above but that seems kludgy to me
 
Thanks.

Comments

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Zoot smart folders are like IQ grids: their content is dynamic, based on some criteria
 
I think your approach of checkmark columns can work. I would tend to use a single text field: a category field, and select from it, but either will work
 
re: Tech notes: I'd arrange them as:
  • Program 1
    • Notes1
    • Notes2
    • ...
  • Program 2
    • Notes1
    • ...
  • ...
When viewing notes without context parents, you could drag the ItemParent field to your grid, to get the relevant program shown in the grid

jan_rifkinson

2009/01/04 09:41

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

[quote=Pierre_Admin]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Zoot smart folders are like IQ grids: their content is dynamic, based on some criteria
 
I think your approach of checkmark columns can work. I would tend to use a single text field: a category field, and select from it, but either will work [snip]
 
When viewing notes without context parents, you could drag the ItemParent field to your grid, to get the relevant program shown in the grid
[/quote]
 
Re: Zoot, yes this is true but user can set up conditions, i.e. if data contains word 'x' it is moved / copied (user choice) to proper folder / db. It's the A.I. portion that I'm most interested in.
 
Thanks for txt / category field. That's definitely a better idea
 
--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
HP Blackbird Vista Ultimate SP-1

Pierre_Admin

2009/01/04 10:31

In reply to by jan_rifkinson

>Re: Zoot, yes this is true but user can set up conditions, i.e. if data contains word 'x' it is moved / copied (user choice) to proper folder / db. It's the A.I. portion that I'm most interested in.
 
True. This feature is planned, as an extension to the current auto-assign rules

jan_rifkinson

2009/01/04 12:40

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

[quote=Pierre_Admin] [snip]This feature is planned, as an extension to the current auto-assign rules[/quote]
 
OK, here comes some more ignorance on my part....... what current auto-assign rules?
 
--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
HP Blackbird Vista Ultimate SP-1

Pierre_Admin

2009/01/04 21:05

In reply to by jan_rifkinson

 

Auto-Assign Rules

Auto-Assign Rules are used to assign values to other fields when values in this field is changed. They are also called Push-Equations (as opposed to Pull-Equations discussed here). The syntax is Flags:Field = equation/value.
The flags indicate when the rule should be applied (they can be combined):

  • A: flag: Action will be triggered when a value is added (initially no value in the field)
  • M: flag: Action will be triggered when a value is modified (initially there is a value in the field)
  • E: flag: Action will be triggered when a value is deleted You can have as many auto-assign rules as you wish separated by vertical bars, they'll be executed in the sequence that they are entered.
Here is an example that calculates the color when a field is added or edited and clears the ItemColor when the field is erased: AM: ItemColor=CalcColor (DurationHr - BudgetHrs) | E: ItemColor=
Push equations are actually more efficient than Pull equations, since it is the field that is causing a change that triggers the calculation to run. Plus they allow many equations in a single field.

jan_rifkinson

2009/01/05 15:01

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

Thx, Pierre. Your explanation -- no fault of yours -- is way above my head.  All I know is that I don't have to create any equations to get Zoot data moved around automatically.
 
--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
HP Blackbird Vista Ultimate SP-1

Tom

2009/01/07 07:27

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

> Push equations are actually more efficient than Pull equations, since it is the field that is causing a change that triggers the calculation to run.
 
can someone explain the difference between push & pull equations?

ericka

2009/01/04 20:52

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

Yes, Jan I second that.
 
I had asked before about assigning colors, etc.
 
In the old SQLNotes forum, Tom had posted some good stuff on this, but I didnt really get it.

brnorman

2009/01/05 15:43

In reply to by ericka

I've been playing around with the assigning colors, etc for a couple of days with no success.  Finally found in the manual at the bottom of the page that you have to close and reopen grid for this to work -- refresh doesn't do it.
I think this tip needs to be in bold large letters and frequently reiterated to save frustrations.  I know there are a lot of little quirks and bugs but I LOVE THIS PROGRAM!

Pierre_Admin

2009/01/05 15:51

In reply to by brnorman

>I know there are a lot of little quirks and bugs but I LOVE THIS PROGRAM!
 
Thanks and yes: MANY GRID CHANGES REQUIRE CLOSING THE GRID AND RE-OPENING IT. (I'm not screaming, just hoping to make it really really clear 
 
Please do not hesitate to update the relevant documentation with this warning