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Submitted by Jon on 2010/10/20 19:32

Opening the folder pane in Ecco allows one to see what folders are associated with an item. You can, individually or en masse, delete these items from the selected folders. I know that IQ will get Ecco-like folders in .27, but I wonder how I can easily delete items form grids with this version. Shown in grids has never worked to my satisfaction and it seems to hit-or-miss. For example, I need to have all the grids showing (I think), but I am not sure in how many grids my item(s) appear and their names.

Can someone direct me to a reliable method to accomplish that which I can so easily do in Ecco? I'll bet I am missing something obvious.

Thanks.

Jon

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"Shown in Grid" does not exist in Ecco, so you would use another way.

Why not do the same as in Ecco:

Open a folder (right-click on a field and select "Show items with values for this field")
Select all items
Either do
- Edit ?>> Erase items and select "From this grid only" or
- In the Properties pane, delete the value for the field

HTH

This helps a bit, thank you.

What I am looking for is a way to reliably determine which items appear in which grids. I would use this capability for individual items and for numbers of selected items. I would then be able to delete them from grids they are no longer needed. Multiple selections would display only those grids they commonly share. Right now, shown in grids does not work reliably for me, and I really cannot do anything directly with the information this provides.

The method you describe works OK. What I have now done is set up a form, "Grids" where all my grids are listed. Now I have them all in one place where they can be readily accessed. I noticed that if I have an item assigned to grids a,b,and c, and another item assigned to just a and b, all of the checkboxes are ticked in the property pane. I think this is not in keeping with convention and misleading, as grid c is not used by both items. Shouldn't the check appear greyed out?

Jon

Hi Jon,

I think you're confusing grids with fields.

Items aren't assigned to grids, they are displayed in grids.
Items are assigned field-values and it is through field-values that they may (or may not) appear in grids
The same is true in Ecco, replacing Grids with Notepads and Fields with Folders
I'm repeating myself, but Ecco did NOT have a "Shown in Grid" feature. If it is seen as too confusing, it will be removed. I think that the improved v0.9.27 UI will help users focus on Fields and less on Grids (but it may be wishful thinking...)

Grey check boxes when multiple items are selected is not currently supported. The Properties pane currently shows values for the "Focused" item, and there is always just 1 focused item.

It is planned though (BTW, MS has in the past released products without such a feature too

. I can think of a few products which got to v6.0 that way)

[quote=Pierre_Admin]

Hi Jon,

I think you're confusing grids with fields.

Items aren't assigned to grids, they are displayed in grids.
Items are assigned field-values and it is through field-values that they may (or may not) appear in grids
The same is true in Ecco, replacing Grids with Notepads and Fields with Folders
I'm repeating myself, but Ecco did NOT have a "Shown in Grid" feature. If it is seen as too confusing, it will be removed. I think that the improved v0.9.27 UI will help users focus on Fields and less on Grids (but it may be wishful thinking...)

Grey check boxes when multiple items are selected is not currently supported. The Properties pane currently shows values for the "Focused" item, and there is always just 1 focused item.

It is planned though (BTW, MS has in the past released products without such a feature too

. I can think of a few products which got to v6.0 that way)

[/quote]

3. It seems to me that Ecco has an interchangability of terms that only apply depending on how they are displayed. You will see the names of all the columns, notepads, and folders in the folder panel. That is because (I think) they are all the same. Yes, I know that a notepad is more akin to a grid because it defines the way the contents (folders and columns) are displayed, but on a folder level, they seem to me to be identical. So, when I select one or more items I will see check marks to indicate their associations with those checked folders. This is what I see as analagous to shown in grid. But I can remove those associations very easily in Ecco, but it takes more work and planning in IQ.

4. No, I am not saying that this feature exists in Ecco, but rather something very much like it (see above). I don't think it should be removed (unless the new UI makes it superfluous), but rather made to work as expected. Now I admit to selfishly thinking that it should work as I expect it to work, but it does not seeem to reliably work even when the grids are all displayed.

Jon

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Jon

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The "favorite items" option uses the home grid concept and there's been some discussions with Pierre on the possibility of having a "home grid" for each item created. Basically, when an item is created it's also assigned a "Home Grid" meaning that that this grid would be the default context in which the item is presented.

Pierre ?

But that means that it would be the user's responsibility to edit the home grid if/when not relevant anymore... They're could be a function to batch change the home grid of many items at once, etc. If it's only a text field, then that would be easy using IQ's current editing abilities.