Submitted by WayneK on 2022/07/29 16:56

1) Item is assigned to the grid source field.  Display mode is set to outline.

2) Item is also assigned as a subitem in the same grid.

3) Item displays correctly in its subitem position but will not display at the top level of the outline.

Could someone explain this? 

I reread the Display Mode section of the manual and did not see an explanation.

Wayne

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I'm not very skilled at this, so perhaps I am wrong or simply don't understand what is being raised, but I think you should be able to get an item to display in both places in a grid at one time.  And I tried this out several times before writing this.

Just being in the source field, however, does not mean that an item will display as a TLI if its position has been reassigned. If one drags a TLI to a subitem position, it will then display only as a sub-item. If one drags a TLI to a subitem position, and then holds down CTRL before releasing the drag, a "+" appears, and then one can drop the item when one wants, and the item will display BOTH there and in the original position. If one has already turned the item into a subitem, one simply has to drag it back to a top position, once again holding down CTRL before releasing the drag. And then it displays in both positions, both top-level and subitem.

At first this didn't work at all for me. It was frustrating. When I held down CTRL and dragged, it extended the selection, which is not what I wanted. One has to start the drag WITHOUT CTRL being held down, and only  hold down CTRL AFTER one has started dragging if one wants to get the "+" symbol and be able to move to where one wants to duplicate  the display of the item. I hope this works for you.

Thanks, Comvox.

Using your method, the item still disappears when the screen is refreshed, leaving only its assignment as a subitem.

It appears that you can't have an item as a TLI and a subitem in the same grid when you're in Outline mode.   You have to switch to Flat View.  At least, that's what I'm guessing at this point.

There's undoubtedly a good reason for it (which I'm trying to understand) but I bet this is a common source of people "losing" items and not understanding why.  It certainly is in my case.

Wayne

Hi Wayne and comvox,

The doc is quite clear:

1. Outline (Normal) View

As its name says, this view shows the outline structure (parent - child). The grid source (in this case the AdressBook field) sets what main items are displayed, but then enforces the outline structure. In the above example, John Doe and Joe Clarkes have AdressBook checked but are NOT shown as top level item because their parent (eCars Ltd) also has AdressBook checked. In other words, in Outline mode, the outline "wins" !

If you want to see a list of items that meet the source, one of the two "Source Items" view will do the job quite well, that is the main reason why you have that display option !

1. Grid Display Modes 

How do I ?