Submitted by jan_rifkinson on 2009/01/17 13:02
So you enter data in the item cell
What do you do to record it in IQ?, ie:
 
<return> = new item
<ctrl><return> = child
<esc> = escape, ie doesn't record
<tab. = takes user to next cell
<F2> does the trick but is this the way it was intended?
 
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Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA

Comments

Yes! You're doing things "right". Reference -- link to nonexistent node ID 145 --. Tha data "takes" with just about anything, but "esc". I also use F5 for this purpose quite a bit (refresh grid).
 

jan_rifkinson

2009/01/18 13:57

In reply to by KeithB

KeithB - What do you think?  Suppose:
 
<enter> saved entry
<ctrl><enter> save & created new sub-item
<alt><enter> save & create new sibling
 
Isn't that more natural than <F2> or <F5> if you just wanted to save & not do something else?
 
Edited 01/18/09 01:54 pm KeithB, Something to consider: I tried <F5> as a way of 'saving' data w the result that the item disappeared from view. I figured out that it had to do w the sort filter & was able to retreive my item by looking thru 'all items' & attaching the necessary field to sync it with the source filter.
 
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Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
HP Blackbird Vista Ultimate SP-1

Tom

2009/01/18 14:26

In reply to by jan_rifkinson

Jan,
the database is saved as soon as you make any changes - there may be an exception (somehow/where) in the html pane
 
I requested    Right-Alt+Enter     for to make an item above current item but dont know if it's coming through ;-)
 
I believe the F5 thing will be fixed eventually - needing no key
 
F2 to edit Item field, Enter or F2 to edit any other field
I like the ease of creating new item and F2 is standard "edit name" key so I happy enough with that
 

jan_rifkinson

2009/01/18 14:47

In reply to by Tom

Tom, This still leaves me with two suggestions / comments:
 
1. I believe user should be supplied with a forced save funciton (suggest <ctrl>S even tho it is currently strike thru)
2. I believe <enter> should be key used to complete the entry of data, not create a new item which could be relegated to
 
<ctrl><enter> = new sibling item
<alt><enter> or something else to new child item
 
As far as insert above (a good idea IMHO) <ctrl><shft><up> might be more indicative of the function
 
Just my .02  I think shortcut keys should be as representative of the function as possible; makes it easier for old brains like mine to remember
 
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Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
HP Blackbird Vista Ultimate SP-1

Al

2009/01/18 15:41

In reply to by jan_rifkinson

I tend to enter lots of items at once, so the Enter key creating a new item works great for me, also consistent with Ecco.
 

Tom

2009/01/18 15:55

In reply to by jan_rifkinson

another way to move from editing an item is the up or down arrows
 
why do you want a forced save Jan if there's an instant automatic save?
 
I agree it's good if shortcuts representative (like the one you propose for new item above - I posted it in relevant thread)
 
I think, for most people, creation of new item gets priority and therefore the easiest key ...
 
off again, bye!

jan_rifkinson

2009/01/18 18:41

In reply to by Tom

[quote=Tom]
another way to move from editing an item is the up or down arrows
 
why do you want a forced save Jan if there's an instant automatic save?
[/quote]
 
Because I believe it adds confidence.  Most -- maybe not IQ -- save only when focus changes to another topic / item or something else. Maybe Pierre can clarify when / what triggers a save in IQ.
 
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Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
HP Blackbird Vista Ultimate SP-1