Submitted by Tom on 2013/12/11 06:22
I havent been using IQ much of late - so dont know if this a bug or not:
 
Search (Ctrl+F)
Select a few item & click [Show items in a new Search grid]
The new search grid has far too many items (40 to 75 so far)
 
 
Seems to be reproducible in the sample file:
Ctrl+F
Search for "Info" (no quotes)
Select the first say, 6 items
click [Show items in a new Search grid]
If I turn of Hierarchy & Context-Parents in the new grid, I have 43 items showing
 
Am I misunderstanding something or is this a bug?
 
 

Comments

 
A SEPERATE issue / possible bug - in the initial Search grid:
 
When I was unable to show the items I selected in another grid, I tried ticking a (temp) field in the properties pane -
that didnt work either - there is simply no response.
Again, this seems reproducible here (i.e. it never works...)
 
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Win.7 64bit  ~  0.9.26Pre-Rel13 2013-11-08 16h00

Pierre_Admin

2013/12/11 11:18

In reply to by Tom

Can you explain in more detail what you did ? It works when I try it here...
 

Tom

2013/12/11 14:46

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

[quote=Pierre_Admin]
Can you explain in more detail what you did ? It works when I try it here...[/quote]
 
Ctrl+F
enter search term
select more than one item
expand "All Fields" in Properties Pane
Tick any  yes/no field
-
Nothing happens
(unticking "Generate SQL" doesnt affect this)
 
 
I can try on my laptop tomorrow...
 

Pierre_Admin

2013/12/11 15:49

In reply to by Tom

Thanks for the detailed information.
 
I was able to reproduce the issue. It is fixed in v0.9.26PreRel14
 

In the dropdown search button, is the "Generate SQL" option is selected ?
 

Tom

2013/12/11 14:46

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

[quote=Pierre_Admin]
In the dropdown search button, is the "Generate SQL" option is selected ?
[/quote]
 
hi Pierre,
yes, deselecting that seems to have resolved it - I mght have ticked it by accident - what does that do?
(doesnt seem to be mentioned in the manual page 1. Live-Search)

Tom

2013/12/11 16:06

In reply to by Tom

when you get the chance, let me know what that SQL option is/does, & I'll try adding it to the manual
 

Pierre_Admin

2013/12/11 17:34

In reply to by Tom

I've moved that checkbox to a move visible position.
 
What this does is as follows:
  • If Unchecked: Search grid will have a filter with a fixed list of items (by their item ID). The list is either the selected items or all items (if none selected)
  • If Checked: Search grid will have a filter with the same criteria as the search result.
    Hence, this search result is more dynamic and will update if new items meet the criteria.
    Users can copy this criteria to another grid to basically save the search.
HTH !
 
Pierre
 

Tom

2013/12/12 06:48

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

[quote=Pierre_Admin]
  • If Checked: Search grid will have a filter with the same criteria as the search result.
    Hence, this search result is more dynamic and will update if new items meet the criteria.
    Users can copy this criteria to another grid to basically save the search. [/quote]
that's great, helpful for learning filters, but it needs to be made much clearer what is happening:
Possibly have it as a button?
Click opens new search grid with relevant filter.
Otherwise no effect on the current dropdown list of options.
 
I presume it doesnt have any effect on the "Show selected in current grid" option. No, doesnt seem to.
 
My main use of search is to narrow down items - then I narrow down more by selecting items from the search list, so the "Generate SQL" in it's current implementation was a disaster for me.
I'd imagine it would be the same for others that dont know what SQL means here.
 

Pierre_Admin

2013/12/12 12:07

In reply to by Tom

[quote=Tom]
My main use of search is to narrow down items - then I narrow down more by selecting items from the search list, so the "Generate SQL" in it's current implementation was a disaster for me.
[/quote]
 
Why was this a disaster for you ?
 

Tom

2013/12/12 17:21

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

[quote=Pierre_Admin]
[quote=Tom]
My main use of search is to narrow down items - then I narrow down more by selecting items from the search list, so the "Generate SQL" in it's current implementation was a disaster for me.
[/quote]
 
Why was this a disaster for you ?
[/quote]
okay - yes, 'disaster' is too strong a word.
But it did take up a couple of hours of my time instead of the expected couple of minutes
 
I reckon in it's current implementation you are guaranteed to have regular complaints/queries along the same lines.
Which is why I suggest separating it completely from the drop-down list of options ("Show selected..." etc.)
 
Does that make sense?

Pierre_Admin

2013/12/13 09:24

In reply to by Tom

[quote=Tom]
But it did take up a couple of hours of my time instead of the expected couple of minutes
 
I reckon in it's current implementation you are guaranteed to have regular complaints/queries along the same lines.
Which is why I suggest separating it completely from the drop-down list of options ("Show selected..." etc.)
[/quote]
  1. Why did it take a couple hours ? Could you not retrieve the previous filter from the dropdown list of previous filters ?
  2. Changes made in v0.9.26PreRel14 should make it clearer. Thanks
 

Tom

2013/12/13 12:40

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

It took a couple of hours because I was completely unable to do what I wanted to do - select a group of items from a search grid and get them to show in a new search grid. **
So I tried again and again and again.
Tried with different searches, tried with different files - also I got stuck because of the bug applying yes/no field to multiple items.
At that stage I was totally addled, so I gave up, and posted here - all in all, a fair bit of time spent on it -
but:
I don't / didn't want to moan about time Pierre - I just wanted to get the point across how frustrated the 'average' (or basic?) user feels in this situation -
and thereby hoped you would implement in a way that the average/basic user like me could not accidentally implement it.
 
Hope that clears it up!
Thanks.
 
** I dont use filters much Pierre - how would this - "retrieve the previous filter from the dropdown list of previous filters" have helped me?

Pierre_Admin

2013/12/13 13:08

In reply to by Tom

OK, no problem. For the record:
  1. Selecting the "Show items in a new Search grid" should now work as expected
  2. The bug applying a yes/no field to multiple items is now fixed
  3. If selecting "Show items in the Current grid" destroyed your grid (i.e. showed a completely different list of items), you can get the previous list from the dropdown
HTH !
 
Pierre
 

Tom

2013/12/13 16:12

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

   Thanks Pierre, sounds good all round