Submitted by jsolka on 2009/09/09 14:33
I admit I don't know too much about searching. I've always used  just the quick search mode.
 
What would be the best way to deal with the fact that in search grid only certain columns are displayed, and not necessarily the ones that are needed?
 
Thanks
Jay

Comments

 
Can't you change the fields shown in the Search grid ? (I not trying to be smart !  - I'm able to change them here)
 
edit/ or did you mean this:
 

Jay,
Are you asking about the actual Quick Search grid, i.e. result of <CTRL>+F
or
Are you asking about the resulting grid view when you select an item & click go, i.e. "search result" grid?
 
I believe in the Search result grid, you can open properties (F4)
and
Drag / Drop any field into that grid
and
For consistency you can select that grid via Manage Grids & name it  (mine is named "Search")
and
In Properties of Grid > Options
Select "Default grid for search results"
 
It should retain whatever columns you've selected.
 
Does that help?
 
--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
HP Blackbird Vista Ultimate SP-2
 
 
 
 

jsolka

2009/09/09 17:56

In reply to by jan_rifkinson

Sorry, I wasn't clear.
I know one can choose whatever fields he wants, but searching different grids with different fields requires re-setting the fields each time those field change. I was just asking if there could be any way to have the same fields as in the searched grid automatically chosen in the resulting grid?
 
Take care,
Jay

Armando

2009/09/09 19:05

In reply to by jsolka

Yes,the search grid can be a bit of a problem if you need to see the item in context.
Usually though, you can click in the grid links in the ShownIn column of the quick search dialog (there seems to be a bug right now, preventing them to be displayed). That will show any item from the quick search window in context. (However, I don't think that you can do that for several items at the same time.)

What can also be done is also to directly use the alpha numeric toolbar (using the TextFields field), or the filter text box in the where you want to see a specific item. This is usually what I do : deactivate the filter, and use the alphanumeric toolbar with the TextFields to search all possible text displayed in the grid.

jsolka

2009/09/10 07:45

In reply to by Armando

Thanks,
 
The Shown-In is a good idea, but as you said it seems to be a bug there.
Also -- should only the items that meet the source appear?
 
I need to yet learn how to use TextFields  and the filter (filtering is something that seems most complicated to me) -- thank you for suggestion.
 
Another question -- is it possible to have the searched items highlighted (including the ones in HTML pane)?
 
Take care,
Jay

jan_rifkinson

2009/09/10 08:50

In reply to by Armando

OK, now I'm confused.
 
If user searches w <CTRL>+F
add word criteria @ data entry point
user can then select multiple items
click 'go' & see all items selected in context in the search grid / view
as long as Grid > Context Parents, etc is selected
 
What am I not understanding here?
 
--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
HP Blackbird Vista Ultimate SP-2

Pierre_Admin

2009/09/10 11:48

In reply to by jan_rifkinson

I think that the issue is that the context is not shown in the search dialog...
 
BTW, if sync properties is checked, context can be seen in the Properties Pane.
 

Armando

2009/09/10 18:57

In reply to by Pierre_Admin

Jan : I was referring to the "shown in" column exclusively. If you click on a grid link in the "shown in" field/column, it goes to that grid and displays the item in that context. You can't do that for many items at the same time. Only one at a time. That's what I meant.
 
Jay (following on Pierre's comment) : Yes, as a work around, you could use the "sync panes" in the quick search dialog, and click on the links displayed in the "shown in" section of the properties pane. This still works.
 
You could also use the "advanced find" dialog. It can be convenient, BUT, it can also be "destructive" (easily repairable, but time consuming)...  So I'd really advice against it. Unless you really know what you're doing in terms of sources, filters, etc.
 
Pierre :
1- the quick search dialog is quicker (repeating myself), isn't it ? I personally like it like that... I guess it's because the shown in field is not read.,.. Don't know the better performance in the search dialog could be kept.
2- also, wouldn't it be "safer" (more palatable...?)  if all changes made to grids using the "advanced search" was temporary (and not "reset" the grid's source, etc.) ? It doesn't seem possible, but I'm wondering.

jan_rifkinson

2009/09/10 19:42

In reply to by Armando

[quote=Armando]
Jan : I was referring to the "shown in" column exclusively. If you click on a grid link in the "shown in" field/column, it goes to that grid and displays the item in that context. You can't do that for many items at the same time. Only one at a time. That's what I meant. [snip]
[/quote]
OK, now I understand what you were talking about. Thanks, Armando.
 
--
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
HP Blackbird Vista Ultimate SP-2

jsolka

2009/09/11 08:25

In reply to by Armando

[quote=Armando]
Jay (following on Pierre's comment) : Yes, as a work around, you could use the "sync panes" in the quick search dialog, and click on the links displayed in the "shown in" section of the properties pane. This still works.
[/quote]
 
1. I don't quite understand how "sync panes" works -- I tried to turn it on & off but couldn't see any change. Could you please explain it to me?
2. Also -- in regard to the bug in "Shown-In" -- I made a little experiment. When I expanded the grid and then searched, the proper grid would appear in the "shown-in" (even after closing the grid), Then I collapsed the grid so the item that was searched was no longer visible. Now, when I searched in the quick search, the "shown-in" field would appear empty.
3. And I will repeat my question -- would it be possible to have searched items highlighted?
 
Take care,
Jay

Tom

2009/09/11 09:24

In reply to by jsolka

>  1. I don't quite understand how "sync panes" works -
 
I havent used it myself but it's explained in #7 on -- link to nonexistent node ID 304 --
 
#3 - I'm sure that has been requested - anyone know has it been added to Mantis ?

jsolka

2009/09/11 09:40

In reply to by Tom

[quote=jsolka]
[quote=Armando]
Jay (following on Pierre's comment) : Yes, as a work around, you could use the "sync panes" in the quick search dialog, and click on the links displayed in the "shown in" section of the properties pane. This still works.
[/quote]
 
1. I don't quite understand how "sync panes" works -- I tried to turn it on & off but couldn't see any change. Could you please explain it to me?
2. Also -- in regard to the bug in "Shown-In" -- I made a little experiment. When I expanded the grid and then searched, the proper grid would appear in the "shown-in" (even after closing the grid), Then I collapsed the grid so the item that was searched was no longer visible. Now, when I searched in the quick search, the "shown-in" field would appear empty.
3. And I will repeat my question -- would it be possible to have searched items highlighted?
[/quote]
 
Update: after downloading the newest version of IQ, I can' t see any data in "show-in" column, and I can't repeat the above "experiment".
 
Take care,
Jay

Armando

2009/09/11 14:53

In reply to by Tom

Jay : Sync panes means that whatever item has the focus in the Quick Search dialog, the pane are synchronized with it (they will show the corresponding properties an HTML content)
 
Tom : search highlighting is 276
 

jsolka

2009/09/12 23:46

In reply to by Armando

Thanks,
I could see what it means practically -- when I select a certain item in Quick Search dialogue the HTML pane will show the appropriate content. But I think that for a user the name panes sync is confusing, because I don't see that really more than one pane (practically speaking ) is involved. Or I'm missing something.
Thanks again.
 
Take care,
Jay

Armando

2009/09/13 18:44

In reply to by jsolka

Jay : there are 2 main panes (apart from the grid(s) and the other "viewers" listed in the "view" menu) : the HTML pane, and the properties pane. So, the properties pane too is involved  in the syncing... If you open it you'll see that it syncs with the items in the Search pane if you enable the syncing option.

Armando

2009/09/13 18:48

In reply to by Armando

-- link to nonexistent node ID 304 --
 
[quote]
7

Sync Panes

Synchronize the properties and the HTML panes
As you select items in the search window, these panes will update to show their content. You can even edit the pane content (field values, HTML, etc)
 
[/quote]

jsolka

2009/09/16 16:12

In reply to by Armando

Aha!
Muchas Gracias!
Take care,
Jay