Submitted by ajr on 2009/12/23 11:25
 Scrapbook captures this page perfectly, but when I link it in IQ, some fragments of code show up at the page breaks and the footnotes.
 
 
 

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Scrapbook is often hard to match, but when I captured that page:
  • nothing selected in FF
  • Click the IQ button
  • Copy URL content cheched
  • Save as MHT unchecked
It is identical (AFAICT). Can you provide screenshot and/or more info.?
 

ajr

2009/12/23 20:12

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 I had not installed the FireFox IQ extension prior to your reply.  When I did so, and captured that page as an .mht it was copied perfectly.
 
Scrapbook was my first choice because the captured pages are easy to edit, and the capture includes the images.  I am willing to use the IQ extensions, but I have a couple of questions:
 
Is it better to save as an mht from Internet Explorer, or does it not make any difference?
 
When I try to open the mht file in the *.SNDB.Files folder with FireFox it opens one tab after another until it is shut down with the Task Manager.  Is this the expected FireFox behavior with mht files?
 
I assume I can open a captured mht file, select an image and save it as a separate file, just as I could visiting the website?
 
And will the ItemHTMLFile field at some point have dynamic links?  I'm particularly concerned with this.  If I'm using Scrapbook, at least I've got another directory structure inside of FireFox that tells me what's what.  If there are no dynamic links to the *.SNDB.Files folder, then when I switch computers, all my web captures are in the form of ItemID1234.mht.

ajr

2009/12/23 20:40

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 Another question:
 
How can I get a web page that has already been saved (as an html file) into IQ?  
 
I've gone into my Scrapbook folders and opened html files with both FireFox and Internet Explorer and tried to save them with the IQ extensions, as mht files, but they come up blank in the html pane. 

Pierre_Admin

2009/12/23 21:34

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[quote=ajr]
  1. Is it better to save as an mht from Internet Explorer, or does it not make any difference?
  2. When I try to open the mht file in the *.SNDB.Files folder with FireFox it opens one tab after another until it is shut down with the Task Manager.  Is this the expected FireFox behavior with mht files?
  3. I assume I can open a captured mht file, select an image and save it as a separate file, just as I could visiting the website?
  4. And will the ItemHTMLFile field at some point have dynamic links?  I'm particularly concerned with this.  If I'm using Scrapbook, at least I've got another directory structure inside of FireFox that tells me what's what.  If there are no dynamic links to the *.SNDB.Files folder, then when I switch computers, all my web captures are in the form of ItemID1234.mht.
  5. How can I get a web page that has already been saved (as an html file) into IQ? 
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  1. If you selected "Copy URL content", then it makes no difference. HTM and MHT can both be viewed in IQ and IE. Only HTM files can be viewed in FF. Also, MHT files can only be edited by MSWord and (free) BlockNote
  2. FF cannot view .MHT files. There has been some effort to create an extension to view these files, but IIRC it was not great
  3. Correct.
  4. I'm not sure I understand your question... You want to have a list of item names and corresponding .MHT files ? If yes, this is really easy to do. Just ask...
  5. Create a new item and in the HTML pane, Menu>>File>>Open (or use the toolbar). Alternatively, you can drag-drop from Windows Explorer to a grid. A dialog will show you options. Select File Link saved to HTML pane (see Link to Files, Folders and URLs for details).
 

ajr

2009/12/24 00:01

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 4.  On an item where I clipped with the FireFox extension, the ItemHTMLFile field reads - C:\Users\Name\Documents\InfoQube\MyFile.SNDB.Files\ItemID108.mht
 
Similarly, on an item where I linked to a Scrapbook file, the ItemHTMLFile field reads - C:\Users\Name\Documents\InfoQube\data\20091222021033\index.html
 
I would like to be able to have these files linked dynamically like in section 8.20 of the manual: "MyFile.SNDB.files\ItemID108.mht" and "data\20091222021033\index.html".
 
 
5.  OK.  I can get this to work.  My preference is that all the web clips are captured by one program and held in one location, and that's why I was trying to open saved html files in the browser and then save them again with the IQ clipper.  But this is a very small thing since I can link those already saved clips and have them show up.

Pierre_Admin

2009/12/24 00:18

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4. If I understand correctly, you're concerned that using your IQBase on another computer with a different folder structure (or with the IQBase +.files folder on a USB drive for example), you won't be able to view your files. If this is it, we've got that covered: from Link to Files, Folders and URLs :
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  •  Autoupdating links: If the linked file is in the YourFile.sndb.Files folder, then any links which cannot be resolved (moved, on a different computer, etc) will search in that folder and if resolved, will update the link accordingly (works for both the FilePath field and the ItemHTMLFile used in the HTML pane) . This is a great way to simulate file embedding. Simply copy your sndb file and the associated subfolder to a portable drive and your links will remain functional!
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ajr

2009/12/24 01:31

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Sure enough.  While I spent some time on that section of the manual, I forgot about that paragraph, probably because I didn't understand where the YourFile.SNDB.Files folder was used until this thread.  And I just saw in section 6.60 that Scrapbook is supposed to point to the YourFile.SNDB.Files folder.  I had it installed one level up.
 
Question.
 
Since IQ will update links pointing inside the YourFile.SNDB.Files folder, it follows that it would then be the best place to set up a subdirectory of folders holding all the files that will be attached, and not bother with manually changing file paths for dynamic linking.  Is there any reason not to set it up this way?
 
Does IQ automatically create that folder when the file is first saved, or is it created when the user first makes a clip from the web?  I don't remember seeing it from the start.  If the YourFile.SNDB.Files folder is the ideal place to store all the attached files, you may wish to make that more explicit in the documentation.
 
And also, thank you for your help throughout this thread.  It's appreciated.

Pierre_Admin

2009/12/24 12:40

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[quote=ajr]
  1. Since IQ will update links pointing inside the YourFile.SNDB.Files folder, it follows that it would then be the best place to set up a subdirectory of folders holding all the files that will be attached, and not bother with manually changing file paths for dynamic linking.  Is there any reason not to set it up this way?
  2. Does IQ automatically create that folder when the file is first saved, or is it created when the user first makes a clip from the web?  I don't remember seeing it from the start.  If the YourFile.SNDB.Files folder is the ideal place to store all the attached files, you may wish to make that more explicit in the documentation.
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  1. I don't see any reason not to set it up that way, except for not disturbing your own folder organisation. Note: IQ will try to find a missing file even if it is not located in the .files folder. It will first try a drive letter substitution (useful for USB devices). If that fails, it will try simple folder substitution (by comparing the path to the current IQBase path).
  2. It is created when the user first makes a clip.